Late last week, Heads saw Black Thought freestyle over a Questlove beat, with the funky drummer on the cut, no less. From that same interview, Tariq and Amir sat down with Sway Calloway on his Hip Hop Nation show, to talk about 25 years of the crew.

In this hour-plus interview, Thought and Questo explain their connections to President Barack Obama and Bruce Springsteen, their catalog’s evolution through to this week’s …And Then You Shoot Your Cousin, and playing for some of the most culturally, financially, and eclectic audiences in music. This is a great interview from one of Hip-Hop’s longest-lasting, most active outfits—who go uncontested as hardest working.

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