Hip-Hop pioneer Afrika Bambaataa, stopped by Sway in the Morning to promote the 41st anniversary of his Zulu Nation. For 20+ minutes, Bam gave one of the most fascinating tutorials on the earliest days of Hip-Hop you will hear. He discussed the creation of Electro Funk, why Rap artists wore such far out clothes in the late 70’s/early 80’s, the diversity of Hip-Hop in the beginning (and why artists who push boundaries like Kanye West and Drake reflect Hip-Hip’s true essence), what was real and what was fake in the film Beat Street and much more. This is an amazing breakdown from one of Hip-Hop’s architects. Check out the video.

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