If you enjoyed Chris Rock and Tracy Morgan naming their Top 5 MCs in honor of the film, Top 5, you’ll love this. Chris Rock, joined by Questlove, swung through Cipha Sounds and Peter Rosenberg’s Juan Epstein podcast. There, the four Heads engage in a casual, very free-flowing discussion about comedy, fame, film, New York living, and most of all, music.

Some of the best stuff in this hour-plus convo comes early, as Chris Rock’s depth of knowledge (and ability to make spot-on observations) is astounding. Rock compares Pootie Tang to Junior M.A.F.I.A.’s Conspiracy LP, in the clearest way possible. He claims, along with Ahmir, that Top 5, may be his finest Hollywood film.

Other discussions debate PM Dawn’s impact on artists like Pharrell, Drake, and others—despite being a group that’s often scrutinized for their softness, odd fashion, and famed feud with Boogie Down Productions. Then, Chris Rock and Questlove debate producers, with Chris making some hilarious remarks about the status of Common’s “The Light” as a hit.

Later on, Chris recalls watching Grandmaster Flash scratch at school, admits the doors New Jack City opened up, and states why Dr. Dre is a GOAT behind the boards.

A big part of Chris Rock’s comedic strength is his ability to discuss topics we can relate to, like an [incredibly] funny friend might. That comes across on smash in this interview, which surely raises interest and excitement surrounding the film.

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