Part two of Eminem’s sit-down with Zane Lowe unveils the elite MC’s love of production. The beat-maker for Jay Z, 2Pac, Nas, and a lot of his Shady Records artists talks his love of Hip-Hop. Certainly on The Marshall Mathers LP 2, one can hear it, with vast references to Kool Keith, Lakim Shabazz and more. Along the way, M.M. also discusses sobriety’s impact on all of these things.

Zane Lowe is fastly becoming the Terri Gross of Hip-Hop, in terms of asking artists the right way, and earning access to the most evasive figures in the genre.

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