Part of Big Daddy Kane’s mystique is that he’s not a terribly outspoken guy. Although Antonio Hardy is one of Hip-Hop most innovative, commanding, and influential MCs, the Brooklyn, New Yorker often shuns the media circuit, and enjoys his smooth persona, with a cool guard up. It’s almost always just about the music with the Juice Crew alum, and current Las Supper front man.

Speaking with 24HH, that changed a bit. In a video interview, Kane was asked about a legendary part of his career, appearing in Madonna’s 1992 book, Sex. In the same pages alongside nude, erotic photographs of super-model Naomi Campbell, actress Isabella Rossellini, and fellow rapper Vanilla Ice, Big Daddy Kane appeared, in a book that reportedly sold more than 500,000 units.

Looking back at the experience, and his relationship with Madonna, Kane spoke about the racial impact of his appearing in public with the veteran Pop superstar. Kane also admits that Warner Bros., who was both his label and Madonna’s label and publisher, set up their introduction (with Color Me Badd, no less). Part of what makes King Asiatic’s retelling of the story so interesting is to imagine Madonna (who toured with the Beastie Boys and allegedly had a later romantic fling with 2Pac) singing the lyrics to “Ain’t No Half-Steppin'” to fans unaware of B.D.K.’s reign. Perhaps the funniest quote of the interview is Kane’s response to learning that Madonna wanted to have him photographed nude in a very sexual manner (at the 1:30 mark). “Shoot, even better. Let’s do it,” Kane replied—who would appear opposite Madonna and Naomi Campbell in a (reportedly simulated) sexual pose. The iconic Cold Chillin’ Records MC would also appear in Playgirl during the same era.

Kane also recalls a famed photo of the “Like A Prayer” singer naked, trying to hitch-hike a ride to no avail—the moment would later become an iconic portrait in the book.

There is only one Madonna, but quite similarly, there is only one Big Daddy Kane.

As a bonus, in the parsed-out interview, check out B.D.K. recall his dancer/protege (who had some serious bars) Scrap Lover earning his name with a TKO swing on a wayward fan. The Gang Starr Foundation would be proud.

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